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   I am new to Autocad 2014. I am able to draw the basic structural steel model with the exact length and thickness then making it 3D using Extrude and PressPull commands, but am conflicted when using the Fillet command to give my steel models their proper bevel. Do you guys just use a random radius as long as it looks visually ok or how do you figure out what radius value to use when using the fillet command in AutoCad when you give your steel models like square tube, wide flange, or angle iron bevels according to length and width?

Here are some screenshots of what I mean by bevel:
http://imgur.com/a/BJeof

Edited by steelcad01 - 16.Aug.2014 at 23:22

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steelcad01 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 16.Aug.2014 Location: United States Using: Autocad 2014 Status: Offline Points: 3	Topic: Structural Steel Models Bevel (Fillet Values)? Posted: 16.Aug.2014 at 23:21
	I am new to Autocad 2014. I am able to draw the basic structural steel model with the exact length and thickness then making it 3D using Extrude and PressPull commands, but am conflicted when using the Fillet command to give my steel models their proper bevel. Do you guys just use a random radius as long as it looks visually ok or how do you figure out what radius value to use when using the fillet command in AutoCad when you give your steel models like square tube, wide flange, or angle iron bevels according to length and width? Here are some screenshots of what I mean by bevel: http://imgur.com/a/BJeof Edited by steelcad01 - 16.Aug.2014 at 23:22

John Connor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01.Feb.2011 Location: United States Using: AutoCAD 2018 Status: Offline Points: 7175	Posted: 17.Aug.2014 at 12:22
	I base my fillets on data found in the Manual of Steel Construction by the ASIC.
	"Humans have a strength that cannot be measured. This is John Connor. If you are reading this, you are the resistance." <<AutoCAD 2015>>

philippe JOSEPH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14.Mar.2011 Location: France Using: AutoCAD Mechanical 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1511	Posted: 17.Aug.2014 at 13:33
	Hello steelcad01, steel profiles have dimensions given by norms, american, euro,etc... and are really precise. The best for you would be to have complete librairies of this. If you are working in a normal company this should be available there at your hand. If you are lucky enough to have AutoCAD Mechanical you have the command AMSTEEL2D for all the profiles around the world. I have made a file of this with the original dynamic blocks from AutoCAD Mechanical 2012 ( OK for any AutoCAD 2010 ). Maybe I will be able to upload it next week or the other. An other option is to draw them with good 0,0 insertion point for them to be inserted. Draw them in regions for a good 3D direct use. Draw them with the colors and lines "by block" so that you will be abble to change the color and line type without having to explode the inserted blocks. You can have the profile dimensions in sites like : the engineering too box or others. Getting informations on norms is good also. Ask for more and tell us if you suceeded in having alrready made blocks....... Maybe you can find them right here in the site in the CAD Blocks library.

John Connor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01.Feb.2011 Location: United States Using: AutoCAD 2018 Status: Offline Points: 7175	Posted: 17.Aug.2014 at 16:06
	Or you can just find, download and install a nifty, free, program called Al's Steel Mill.
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philippe JOSEPH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14.Mar.2011 Location: France Using: AutoCAD Mechanical 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1511	Posted: 18.Aug.2014 at 07:16
	uploads/175428/AMSTLSHAP2D.dwg Steelcad01, see that file here and tell me if this helped or not. Note : the real AutoCAD Mechanical command is : AMSTLSHAP2D. Do a a copy of the block that you want and open the properties palette to modify the "visibility" conformably to the size that you want ( not available on light release but I hope that it will work on your non Mechanical AutoCAD ), grip the dimensions on it and verify the correctness. Edited by philippe JOSEPH - 18.Aug.2014 at 08:07

John Connor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01.Feb.2011 Location: United States Using: AutoCAD 2018 Status: Offline Points: 7175	Posted: 18.Aug.2014 at 11:42
	Where does the OP mention he has AutoCAD Mechanical? I must have missed that.
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philippe JOSEPH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14.Mar.2011 Location: France Using: AutoCAD Mechanical 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1511	Posted: 18.Aug.2014 at 12:37
	John, I noticed that Steelcad01 mentionned AutoCAD and not AutoCAD Mechanical, that's why I did upload that file including that dynamic blocks that I hope will be modificable on his AutoCAD not Mechanical. Anyone that has also non Mechanical could tell us if this works with the "visibility" on the properties palette ?

John Connor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01.Feb.2011 Location: United States Using: AutoCAD 2018 Status: Offline Points: 7175	Posted: 18.Aug.2014 at 14:49
	There are some (wide flange and channel) structural steel dynamic blocks already included in plain AutoCAD on the Tool Palettes. Maybe not all the sizes but the most commonly used. There are no angles or tube shapes.
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