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Topic ClosedLED Bulbs and Photocells: Can someone shed some light on this issue?

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    Posted: 18.Feb.2016 at 04:00

Our association complex has exterior lights outside each townhouse unit. There are 3 light fixtures: one at the entrance, one along the walkway, and another facing the street.

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In our case, all 3 fixtures have photocells so that they come on at dusk and go off at dawn. We like the light for security purposes. In an effort to be green and use as little energy as possible, we have been using Compact Fluorescent (CFL) bulbs instead of traditional incandescent bulbs.

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Our association is in the process of replacing all of the fixtures in the complex. Our Design Review Committee has selected the Hubbardton Forge light fixture as the replacement.

New_fixture

With 76 units in our complex, and units have 3 or 4 light fixtures each, that's a lot of fixtures. That's also a lot of bulbs. In the interest of minimizing energy costs throughout the complex, that brings up the question of LED bulbs. When ordering fixtures, the Hubbardton Forge fixture can be specifically configured for LED bulbs.

Lamping

Our association would probably go with incandescent lamping, which would allow for incandescent, CFL, or LED bulbs, but my point is that LED is definitely considered a possibility by the manufacturer. Here's the question. A few years ago, with my existing fixtures that have photocells, I tried two LED bulbs. They were $30 each. To my dismay, they lasted about a month or so. I am under the impression that LED bulbs are not compatible with photocells. Though I have only one data point, it appears that LEDs are not recommended for fixtures with photocells because the current constantly flows through the bulbs. This is because the photocell requires a little bit of energy to determine when it is daylight and when it is night. As a result, this burns LED bulbs out very quickly since they never really turn off. If that is the case, how can the Hubbardton Forge fixture specifically have an option for LED lamping?

On Saturday, I went to our local hardware store to look at LED bulbs. My plan was to buy one CFL bulb, one LED bulb, and install them in one of my existing fixtures. I was then going to measure how long each bulb lasted. To quote Matt Damon's character in The Martian movie, "I was going to science the sh*t out of this."

Here is what the hardware store had:

2LED

Note that one LED bulb is $37.99 and a similar LED bulb is $22.99. Looking on the back of the packaging for the first bulb, I saw:

Message1

Looking on the back of the packaging for the second bulb, I saw:

Message2

Since both packages clearly state that the LED bulbs are not compatible with photocells, I canceled my experiment.

So what gives? Can our association use LED bulbs in our new fixtures that will have photocells? All of the fixtures facing the streets have photocells since they are considered part of our street lighting system. In my particular case, the problem is compounded in that all 3 of my fixtures have photocells. The bulb packages says NO. The fixture information says YES. What to do? What to do?

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