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yaniv1512
11.02.2010, 20:13

helo 
i am new here and need yours help 
i going to buy workstation laptop 
and i wanted your help for understanding and
choosing a laptop 
the laptop is insted of my desktop computer
(biger=better) 
and i going to used it for Cad and 3d applications
like : 
solidworks 2010 
maya 
3dmax 

whats is more important cpu or graphic card? 

i am thinking on: 

1. lenovo w700ds with Core 2 Duo processor T9600
(2.8GHz 1066MHz 6MBL2) and NVIDIA Quadro FX 2700M 
or 

2.lenovo w700 with Core 2 Extreme X9100 (3.06 GHz,
6MB L2, 1066 MHz FSB) and NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M 
or 

3.dell Precision M6400 with Intel Core 2 Duo T9900
(3.06GHz, 6M L2 Cache, 1066MHZ and VIDIA Quadro FX 700M 
or 

4.asus G73JH A1 with intel i7-720qm 6mb cache
1.6GHz and 1GB ATI Radeon™ Mobility HD 5870 

the asus got very strong cpu and very strong
gaming gpu 
and the w700 and dell got stronger graphic card
(quetro) but weak cpu (Core 2) 
what is the best choice ?? 

tanxs

tulip3D
11.02.2010, 20:29
I beleive that the CPU and the graphics card work together, so go broke or go home on both of them, as in dont short one for the other. Your gonna need a lot of RAM too.

KobusErasmus
11.02.2010, 20:49
Go for 64 bit if you can, as much ram as you can afford, at least 512 mb graphics card, highest cpu combo.  Dont worry too much about anything more than a dual core processor.
 
I use an Acer travelmate 7730, 2.53 gHx cpu, Duo processor, Nvidia Geforce 9300M with 512mb dedicated graphics RAM, Vista Pro 64bit, 8 gigs ram, and second external screen when in the office.  Sometimes still wish for more RAM.....  I run Inventor 2010 Professional on it and some of my assemblies contains 15000+ parts.
 
Try to get a machine with 2 hard drives, and make one of them a solid state drive.  Use that then as the drive for all your 3D work, massive improvement in performance, especially opening and saving work.

tulip3D
11.02.2010, 21:12
And hey Kobus,
Tell me more about this 'solid state drive' being faster.
 
My company is looking into a server update, and maybe i can convince them that a 'solid state' hard drive would be better?
 
Currently when were working on large assemblies off the network (which reads from the server) I expirence painfully long adaptive part updating. Would this in fact improve using solid state file storage drives?

tulip3D
11.02.2010, 21:23
and BTW the computer I am on and using now:
intel core 2 quad @ 2.83GHz
8GB RAM
vista business 64 bit
nvidia quadro fx 570, 256mb

yaniv1512
14.02.2010, 20:25
what do u think will be the best for me about the asus :1.upgrade the cpu from i7 720 to i7 820or2.upgrade the ram from 8gb 1066mhz to 12 gb ram 1066mhz or3.upgrade the Hard Drive 500GB 7200RPM 3gb/s Cache 32MB to 128gb Solid State Drive Sata2 (its got one more 500gb hard-drive) and the ram from 8gb 1066mhz ram to 8 gb ram 1333mhz


KobusErasmus
16.02.2010, 19:25
As I understand it the performance gain will only work for localised files, i.e. over a network the bottleneck is the network....

tulip3D
16.02.2010, 19:32
Dammit!
So it wouldnt do anything, huh? Well that sux. What could I suggest to the puppeteers to make things quicker? Our WHOLE part library and file system is off a network...all through vault eventually, at least, thats what were told, lol
I sometimes wait at my 'un-responding' screen for up to 15-20 minutes for a fully adaptive assembly to update...agonizing!
Thats how I can post so much!! lol

Tankman
07.03.2010, 02:33
I have two Lenovo laptops, have owned "all the rest" at one time.
 
Lenovo is where I want to be running AutoCAD. I find the Lenovo doesn't hesitate at all, AutoCAD '07, 2D and 3D, excellent response.
 
Lenovo's service, should you ever need it, is excellent.
 
The W700 isn't too portable if you're moving around. A smaller screen will also increase battery (run time) life 'tween charges. 

tulip3D
08.03.2010, 14:55
Tankman, Thanks for the advice. But i'm teatherd to my desk, they got a shackle system that radio moniters my bathroom breaks and everything, lol, those muthaf

Tankman
10.03.2010, 12:00
[QUOTE=tulip3D]Tankman, Thanks for the advice. But I'm tethered to my desk, they got a shackle system that radio monitors my bathroom breaks and everything, lol, those muthaf  [/QUOTE]



 
Doesn't sound like Q-Town? Perhaps management should shop at Q-Mart.
That'll wake 'em up!
 
Financing permitting, get a HDD with some speed; i.e.: 10,000 or more mps.
 
For on-the-road laptops, a solid state HDD is on my wish list.
The solid state HDD's are expensive (today, price'll come down) use less power, generate less heat, and are fast opening programs and/or saving files too.
 
 
Tulip sounds a bit like Oppenheimer?

tulip3D
10.03.2010, 14:09
LOL! freakin Q-mart....I think they DO shop there hahaha everyone does 'round these parts, lol.
Oh an whats an oppenheimer?

Tankman
10.03.2010, 19:12
[QUOTE=tulip3D]LOL! freakin Q-mart....I think they DO shop there hahaha everyone does 'round these parts, lol.
Oh an whats an oppenheimer?[/QUOTE]



 
Oppenheimer is a premier manufacturer, painter, of aircraft control panels, navagation equipment, etc. They also paint a lot of precision control panels for military aircraft.
 
Read the company description here:
http://business.highbeam.com/company-profiles/info/76328/oppenheimer-precision-products
And, here too: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-65023281.html
 
On and, the HDD, I meant to write "RPM's", revolutions per minute.
FAST but, sorry, expensive.
 
Feeling down on yourself? Go shopping at Q-Mart for a little while.
 
 Tankman2010-03-10 19:15:12