Is there a way to export a layouttab to another dwg but still keed everything in paperspace or model space ive tried the "exportlayout" but that moves everything to model space. im trying to see if there is a better way then just a save-as and then going back to delete the tabs not needed w/out useing a .lisp

There's probable a custom lisp routine somewhere that will do it or at least come very close.  Just do a search.