I am trying to produce a drawing which is to be used for locating drill holes on a panel. I am producing the drawing on an A3 sheet of paper and when I print off the document the dimensions, although entered correctly center to center are not correct.
To clarify we have four holes the first spaced 52.5mm from the layout border, the second 105mm from this line, third 210mm and forth 315mm from the same line. We believe that the scaling is 1:1 but a physical measurement shows the errors as follows:
First Hole, 51mm from line, second hole 102mm from line, third 204mm and forth 305mm. As you can see the errors get larger from the layout line and I dont understand why this is, please can someone help!cssltd2008-10-30 16:32:35

Hey there...Hope this Helps;

Paper Scaling.
1st my friend you have to set the papers space (LAYOUT 1, 2, ETC)... its located in the lower left of the Workspace in cad...beside model space.

do this.

Paper space
> In your mouse Right Click
> Press G in the keyboard
> In your mouse Left Click Modify
> You should Identify the printer name "Printer Device"
> Size of Paper.
Standard Sizes A0- 841mm x 1189mm or 33.1inches x 46.8inches
                  A1- 594mm x 841mm or 23.4inches x 33.1inches
                  A2- 420mm x 594mm or 16.5inches x 23.4inches
                  A3- 297mm x 210mm or 11.5inches x 16.5inches
>PLOT SCALE SETTINGS:
: SCALE = set to Custom
: 1 = inches
: 25.4 units
> Left Click OK.

YOU NOW HAVE A PAPER SET READY FOR PLOTTING...

IN SCALING A WORKING DRAWING.

> type MV in the keyboard
> hit enter or space bar
> create a window box
Note: you will see the model working space drawing that you created and in default it fits in your mv box.
> type ms
> hit enter or space bar
FOR SCALING A DRAWING MADE IN METERS:
> type z
> hit the enter or space bar
> type s
>hit the enter or space bar
TYPE THIS :
1000/NUMBER FOR DESIRED SCALED DRAWING + XP
Example : for the scale of 1:1 m. simply type this :1000/1xp
> type ps
> hit enter or space bar.
FOR SCALING A DRAWING MADE IN MILLIMETERS:
> type z
> hit the enter or space bar
> type s
>hit the enter or space bar
TYPE THIS :
1/NUMBER FOR DESIRED SCALED DRAWING + XP
Example : for the scale of 1:1 m. simply type this :1/1xp
> type ps
> hit enter or space bar.

THEN YOU WILL HAVE YOUR DESIRED SET UP SCALED WORKING DRAWING.

HOPE IT HELPS MY FRIEND.

Hi there,
 
Thanks for the help but I was wondering if you could just clear up something for me.
When I follow your directions everything is fine until I type mv and a window box is created.
How do I know where to position the window box because if I change the position then everything that I have drawing shifts position also so when I print it out it has all shifted on the paper. Is this due to my error? If you could help again it would be great!

hey there my friend;

it is in positioning your paper in PAPER SPACE (Layout 1, 2, and so fort)

do this
> left click your mouse to the layout you want to reposition either PORTRAIT OR LANDSCAPE
> type G on the keyboard
Note: a pop-out window will appear
> left click your mouse to MODIFY
> in DRAWING ORIENTATION choose what you want
Portrait
Landscape

IN POSITIONING your MV:
; simply select the box that you saw in your paper space Layout and move it.

IF YOU WANT TO RESIZE YOUR MV
; simply select the box and you will notice there are four colored point in each side of a mv window box then select the points and adjust simple drag to your mouse.

NOTE:
once you created a MV in Paper Space (Layout 1,2 etc) it is the same position in the model space, you only have to adjust the orientation of your paper my friend.

if you have done reposition the paper and you want to edit in the model there is no problem in the paper space it will have the same orientation as in the model space

Hope i have answered your inquiry my friend.andtimebegins2008-11-01 07:41:29

Dear Friend,
We are still struggling, enclosed instructions as we have entered:
Selected Layout 1> Page Setup Manager> Modify> Page Setup- Layout 1> Paper size, A3, 297x420mm and selected printer> Cannot select Custom untill we change SI units from mm to inches then back to mm then scale: changes to Custom> Left click OK> Page Setup Manager> The drawing now has a box with dimensions 205.5x156 located in the bottom left of the screen> If we then type mv the command line comes up with the followiing instruction: Specify corner of viewpoint or [on/off......]<fit>: value we entered was 0,0> specify opposite corner: 420,297>This produced a solid line outside the page at the top and right hand side and is also outside the dashed line in both these locations. We are using AutoCAD 2006 and wonder if this is the problem. We have not been able to go any further than this.

hey my friend,

sorry for being late to reply to you..

please read again my friend, because i have been using this method since CAD 2002.

MV: note that you dont have to put any coordinates to it..you just have to drag and creat a window box
Hint: simply Left Click and Drag to "Lower Left Window to Upper Right Window...now you have a "Model space View" in the paper space..

Do the same procedure before my friend.

Now in the orientation of your paper.
just select landscape or portrait

1st when you set your paper be sure that you have set the
PLOT SCALE SETTINGS:
: SCALE = set to Custom <------- this will be automatic when you change this following settings:
: 1 = inches
: 25.4 units
> Left Click OK.

Hey my friend i hope you'll get this simple procedure if you want to ask more, i can give you any simple tips just give me your email ad i will give you the excel file that i made since CAD 2000 LT. its just some simple procedure if you want thou...

Thanks..

hey there,
 
thanks for all your  help, we just cant seem to get the scaling correct when it comes to printing the document out.
 
it would be helpful if you could send the excel file to us for some extra help
 
email address is:    dhawthorncssltd@btinternet.com
 
Thanks again

hey my friend please check your mail
your request has already been sent....andtimebegins2008-11-06 13:09:02

Hi,
 
I have been using a script I wrote since AutoCAD 3.6 to automatically setup a template for whatever scale you want. Basically you initially setup an A3 1:1 and then if you start drawing outside of the page then you increase the scale by selecting the suitable ratio. You draw everything 1:1 regardless of the scale you select and then the scaling actually is done by ACAD at time of printing.
 
If you are interested, I can send you the script and the support files with an explanation of how to use them. Once set up it is a very easy utility and practical tool. You may need to refine it for your environment but that should not be too hard. Let me know if you are interested.
 
Alfons 

I am working in auto cad 2004 my problem is in left of cad model, layout 1,layot2 is not coming & in drawing even if i draw centre lines , hidden lines etc that is not visible in the print out. They are looking like a thin line not showing exact properties. please guide me.
mail me the animations
my id:  subramanya03.r@gmail.com
 
Thanks.......