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kc13
21.12.2013, 23:32
Hi All hope everyone is well,
 
I have drawn some house plans no problems, but when i enter text in model space it appears very small at 2.5 text height.  But when i enter the text in layout tab at 2.5 text height it is ok, please help as to what i am doing wrong. Guys sorry to say it is now doing the same as it is in model space, the text when entered at 2.5 in height is appearing very small in layout as well.
 
Many thanks to all.
 
 
KCkc132013-12-22 00:39:33

John Connor
22.12.2013, 12:02
KC - I tried answering your question in the other post.  This could get confusing having more than one post with the same question.

kc13
22.12.2013, 21:50
Thanks Jhon, would it be possible if you could give me an example how to do this please.
 
Thanks
 
kc

John Connor
22.12.2013, 22:27
See this is where it is going to start getting confusing as your question seems to be in reference to the answer I gave to your original question back in the other thread.  So the problem becomes....where to answer.  This thread or the other one?My question to you is do you want your text and dimensions in model space or in your paper space layout?

kc13
22.12.2013, 23:48
Jhon i think i would like to enter text in paper space layout, if you could give an example it would be great.
 
Thanks
 
kc

purti
23.12.2013, 09:50
hey In layout i thing you use template as like maximum of A1 size of drawing when you will printout on A1 or A2 size paper size it will be not look so short as per paper size. purti

John Connor
23.12.2013, 11:43
I have no idea what the heck purti above is talking about and I suggect KC that you ignore his posted comment.If you are going to put your text and dimensions in paper space then it should be set to a height of 2.5mm or whatever is considered standard.  The one thing you must do is be sure to make your dimensions "associative" which is not the same thing as "annotative".  Dimensions that are associative will remain associated with the objects they are dimensioning if those objects are stretched or moved.  To make dimensions associative click on the Tools drop-down menu, click on Options, at the Options dialog box click on the User Preferences tab and look at the right hand side.  Under Associative Dimensioning enable Make New Dimensions Associative.  Now you are ready to dimension in your layout.Also make sure that you have assigned the proper scale for your viewport then LOCK the viewport so you do not accidentally change the scale.  Do you know how to do this?Finally, make sure you use your OSnaps when you are dimensioning.  If you don't then AutoCAD will most likely think you are dimension a paper space object and return the wrong dimension.Got all that?

John Connor
23.12.2013, 15:53
This is a link to a simple tutorial by Ellen Finkelstein regarding annotative dimensions.http://www.ellenfinkelstein.com/acadblog/tutorial-automate-annotation/I'll post (separately) my own sample drawing shortly.

John Connor
23.12.2013, 16:04
-When this drawing is printed the text and dimension text heights will all be the same (0.125) despite the fact that the viewport scales themselves are totally different.If you have set up your annotative dimensions and text correctly they should also display the same in your layout.People who have to deal with many scales in a drawing and require the ability to have dimensions/text appear or not appear in certain viewports will find annotative scaling to be an invaluable asset and should consider its use.That said, I personally don't use annotative scaling because it really
isn't necessary in my line of work.  I do all my dimensions and text in
my layout to real world size.  My text and dimension heights are usually 3/32" or 1/8th".

John Connor
23.12.2013, 16:43
Something else occurs to me re: annotative scaling.Users will have to become familiar with the following system variables.ANNOALLVISIBLEANNOAUTOSCALEANNOTATIVEDWGANNORESETANNOUPDATECANNOSCALEVALUESELECTIONANNODISPLAYAnd maybe SCALELISTEDIT.

John Connor
23.12.2013, 16:47
[QUOTE=purti]hey In layout i thing you use template as like maximum of A1 size of drawing when you will printout on A1 or A2 size paper size it will be not look so short as per paper size. purti[/QUOTE]So what I think you are suggesting is that KC consider printing his drawing at a larger scale so the text will appear bigger on the drawing.  Is that it?What if KC is limited to printing on an A4 size sheet of paper?

John Connor
26.12.2013, 19:03
KC: Can't help when you don't answer follow-up questions in a timely manner.

heinsite
27.12.2013, 10:33
KC, you're not taking into account something called the "scale factor".  In model space you're drawing everything at full 1:1 scale.  But in the Layout (paper space) your viewport scales the model to fit the paper.  So any annotation (text or dimensions) that you put in the model needs to be scaled so it will look correct on paper.We could try and guess your preferences for text heights or viewport scale, but you should go look at this web page on computing scale factors if you don't want to use (or haven't figured out yet) annotative scaling.  From there you'll be able to determine how large to make annotations in the model to look right in your viewports.John's suggestion to study and learn annotative scaling however is a good one.  The advantage there is you won't need to worry about scale factors ever again.  That's now become the old way of doing things.  And we really don't have time for that anymore.  :)Dave.
heinsite2013-12-27 10:34:18

kc13
27.12.2013, 17:25
Thanks to all for your help, much appreciated. that is solved. Next question is how can i enter text height for dimensions in the New Dimensions Style box, i am unable to enter height in the text box.  I can change other settings but not able to enter anything in the height box.
 
Thanks to all

John Connor
27.12.2013, 20:38
I'll take a wild guess and say that when you set up your text style (same one you are using to display your dimensions) that where it says Size > Height you entered an exact height (ex. 2.5) when you should have left it blank.  Once you fill that box in you can't enter a text height in your DimStyle dialog box.

kc13
27.12.2013, 21:34
Thanks Jhon, but i do not know what is wrong when i am entering dimensions they are appearing very small, i have checked the text height and that is set at 2.5.  I have tried changing it but the same thing is still happening, please help

heinsite
27.12.2013, 21:46
There are several places where you can define styles.  One is the Text Style Manager.  There, if you want to create an Annotative text style you should leave the text height box set to 0.00 so that you're able to change text heights later when you might want to.  That is John's point above.But there is also a Dimension Style Manager.  There, on the Text Tab, is a Text Height box.  If you always want your dimension text to be 2.5 on paper regardless of the viewport (model) scale, you need to define that value here.There are also Text Height definitions in the Multileader Style Manager and in the Table Style Manager dialogs.  Combined, and when used properly, these style settings help you keep your drawings looking consistent.Dave.

auto2014
12.01.2014, 19:37
How to learning autocad?

auto2014
12.01.2014, 19:39
website to learn autocad

John Connor
13.01.2014, 11:36
auto:It is not good form to hijack a thread started by someone else.  And you don't have to double post.  We heard you the first time.Learning AutoCAD.  Try this website: http://www.we-r-here.com/cad/index.htm