Hi everyone hope ur all well.
 
I am having problems of inserting a few templates from my folders to a drawing.  When i try to insert it into a layout i do all the usual click block, browse, pick the template the only point ticked is the insertion box, i.e specify on screen and click ok. Then in on screen and command line it reads, specify insertion point or (Baasepiont/Scale/x/y/z/Rotate): But i do not know what to do from here. Any help would be much appreciated.
Many thanks to all.
 
kc

Properly drawn title blocks will have their basepoint set at 0,0.  So the first thing I would try would be to insert the block in the layout at 0,0.If for some reason that doesn't work you might want to look at the block in the block editor and set the basepoint where it needs to be.Dave.

Hello, I have also faced that problem, 2 options :
-1- You have not drawn your title block file beginning at the point 0,0 so that you don't have it "at the end of your mouse" when you insert it.
Open the title block file and move all the object to the point 0,0 ( generally the right lower point ).
-2- Even this doesn't works.
Open your DWT or a good recent file ( do a "save as" with it ) and copy/paste your tittle block inside it.
Move all the object to the point 0,0,erase all the unwanted objects and paper spaces + presentations, purge the file and it will work.
 

[QUOTE=philippe JOSEPH]-1- You have not drawn your title block file beginning at the point 0,0 so that you don't have it "at the end of your mouse" when you insert it.
Open the title block file and move all the object to the point 0,0 ( generally the right lower point ). [/QUOTE]I think you may have meant "lower left" point here.  That's generally where my basepoint is for title blocks.Dave.

Hello Dave, no I meant lower right for a title block because we put them in the right lower point of formats that have different margins ( that's why I wrote : generally ).
We have left lower points for format insertions so that we insert them at 0,0 and use the same plot configurations for all drawings.
But I think that it can be different for other companies.philippe JOSEPH2012-11-13 13:29:36

Philippe,
 
That's really interesting... and if it fits your workflow then it's what you use.  But it does seem non-standard.
 
Try this:
 
Type NEW to create a new drawing and use the acad.dwt (or acadlt.dwt for LT users) basic template.
Go to the Layout tab and create a POINT at 0,0 and look where it falls.
 
This is the reason I originally suggested the OP check his title block basepoint location and confirm it's at lower left.
 
Dave.

Dave, thanks for all the informations that you give to us.
I'm a "basic AutoCAD user" and I'm allways giving "basic advices" in the beginning of a discussion so that it will not overflow the person asking a question that I think to be basic.
I will try your settings.
In the company where I work we have AutoCAD company settings and we use the dwt with lines, dimensions, formats, title blocks, blocks, etc... of the company.
Thanks again for all.

Philippe,
 
Company standards should rarely be violated... and I am not advising it by any  means.  But I am curious how you use title blocks in your company.  If they have a basepoint (insertion point) at their lower right corner what coordinates do you use when you insert one in a new Layout?  Or do you simply drag the Layout in from Design Center if you need one you don't have? 
 
I have been thinking more of how it would be done if you had just created a block and now you were ready to put it in a layout prior to saving the file as a DWT.
 
Dave.

Dave, hello again.
I'm using inserting, copy/paste or the AutoCAD design center with everyting and there is really no problems with the insertion points of blocks ( when drawn with a good 0,0 ).

Well, I hope that the original poster (OP) will check in at some point and tell us how he (or she) is doing and if any of this has helped.Dave.

Hi everyone thanks for all your replys.  I tried some of your suggestions but none seemed to work.  But i have since made a new title block 11x8 and tried to insert it. it now comes to layout but is very small. what am i doing wrong here?  Any help again would be much appricieated, many thanks again

Hello, if your block doesn't come with the good scale, verify in your different files that in the DDUNIT panel your INSERTION SCALES are with the same ( or correct ) values ( mm , inches , meters etc... ).
When you have inserted the block, open the properties panel ( CTRL + 1 ) and read the selected block scale values that you can directly change.
Ask for more if not OK for you.

Let’s start this whole thing from scratch and see if
something along the way helps explain how this title block thing works. You might see something below that you did in
error.  But once you get a basic block working
you can add lots more bells and whistles. 
What follows below will start from a known environment so if something
does go haywire for you we should be able to backtrack.

 

1)     
Close all open drawings.

2)     
On the big red “A” (the AutoCAD Application
icon) click the little black arrow and select New to start a new drawing.  You’ll be asked to select a template.  Use the ACAD.dwt template.

3)     
Now draw an 11x8.5 rectangle with the bottom
left corner at 0,0.  (RECTANG 0,0 11,8.5)

4)     
Select the rectangle. 

5)     
Click the Insert tab and select Create Block
from the Block Definition palette.

6)     
Name the block TitleBlock.  Make sure the “Open in block editor” box at
the bottom is checked.  Leave the Base
point and Objects “Specify On-Screen” boxes unchecked, leave the Annotative box
unchecked.  Select the “Delete” radio
button and check the “Scale uniformly” and “Allow exploding” boxes.

7)     
Click OK to open the Block Editor context
sensitive tab.

8)     
In the Manage palette check the Block Authoring
icon.  On the Parameters tab click “Basepoint”
and place it at the lower left corner of your rectangle.

9)     
Do one last thing before saving… select the
rectangle again and OFFSET it 0.375 to the inside.  Then Close the Block Editor and save the
TitleBlock.

 

Now we’re going to do a little setup on the Layout1 tab.

 

1)     
Click the Layout1 tab to open it.  Select the existing viewport and delete it.

2)     
Now right click the tab and select Plot.  We’re going to set it up to create a Design
Review (.dwf) document.

3)     
In the Printer/plotter Name: box, click the down
arrow and select the DWF6 ePlot.pc3 driver.

4)     
In the Paper size section scroll thru the list
until you find ANSI full bleed A (11.00x8.50 Inches).

5)     
In the Plot style table click the little black
down arrow and choose acad.ctb.

6)     
Click the Apply to Layout button and then
Cancel.  The plot is set up, but we don’t
have our title block on it yet.

7)     
You should still be on the Insert tab, so click
the Insert icon in the Block palette and select your TitleBlock block and
insert it at 0,0 using all the defaults. 
Click OK.

8)     
The outside line you drew should be around the
outside edge of the white portion of the Layout.  The 3/8” offset line will be inside of that.

 

You can trick this basic block out all you want to add
extra information, but this is the bare bones of it.  To plot something from the model you’ll need
to add a viewport to this (VPORTS), set its scale and orient things the way you
want.

 

Hopefully this will get you started.Addendum:  I realized after writing this that in 2008 you may not be using the Ribbon, so some of these instructions may not make sense.  One thing for sure will be the Block Authoring palette (you may have it but might have to look somewhere else).  If the whole basepoint thing gives you trouble then Specify the basepoint at 0,0,0 in the Create block process.

 

Dave



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heinsite2012-11-16 08:26:51

Hi  Dave,
 
Many thanks for taking time out for all the step by step by information, i will try this very soon and see where i end up.  I will let you know, have a good day and once again many thanks.
 
Kc

Hi Dave,
 
I have followed your instructions and am very happy to say that i have managed to make a basic template as a test  and it inserts exactley as you have mentioned.  I wiil later on make a detailed template to use for my projects. You have been absolutely brilliant for ur help and i will indeed pass this on to anyone else who may need this as a reference.  I had been stuck on this for ages.  I wish you all the best and many thanks for ur help.
 
Kc

Trust me, KC, you weren't the *only* one stuck on that for ages!  I was too once!  This is just my way of shortening the time frame for someone else.The next thing worth studying that will really make this useful is block attributes.  As you refine your title block, include attributes in it for things like dates, sheet numbers and other content.  And you can also use custom fields that you create and update via DWGPROPS.  The best example of how to use this might be this:Create a new field via DWGPROPS called ProjNo and give it a sample project number.  Then in your title block create a text object and insert the field name of ProjNo.  Now, if you use this title block on multiple sheets, all you have to do is change the value of ProjNo one time in DWGPROPS and it will be updated (after a REGEN or REGENALL) on all the sheets where it occurs.Whenever common content appears in multiple locations a field value is the answer. I ensures nothing is missed and everything is consistent.Good Luck!Dave.

Hi Dave,
 
Hope ur well, yes that is what i intend to do next so that everything is ready on the template, but i do need to know how to make multiple sheets for the same project, say where i may need 5 sheets. Meaning if i am drawing a number of drawings for a house with different views. ie ground floor, front, rear , before and after, it then needs to be on the same sheet, meaning everything looks same and proffessional.  I hope i have explained it well, but as you mentioned multiple sheets. If you are able to help on this matter that would also be much apprecieated.  Have a good day.
 
Many thanks
kc
 
 
 

If I understand the question correctly the solution is fairly simple.  If you know ahead of time that you want to have several sheets then all you need to do is copy the Layout and modify the viewport(s).  Simply right click the layout and click Move or copy.  Be sure to click the little box on the bottom to Create a copy.  Then just place it where you need it.You can have as many layouts in a drawing file as you'd like.  Some people like to have only one layout per drawing (sheet) and others have many.  It's completely up to you.  One of the things I like about a drawing with many layouts is it allows good use of the Publish command.  Just select all the layouts and publish them at one time.Dave

Hi Dave,
 
Yeah thats a good idea.  I will do that as i will always need more than 2 layouts. Hope ur well and many thanks for all ur help, God bless and i hope to speak with you soon.
 
Kc