CAD Forum discussion (EN) : groups

groups : First off I think you should use...

Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:29:10 +0000

Author: John Connor
Subject: 11123
Posted: 21.Apr.2015 at 17:29

First off I think you should use UNGROUP not EXPLODE. You may get results you weren't expecting with Explode. BTW...there is an option under Group for Explode. Not sure if there is anything different about this option versus the regular Explode command. Test it and find out.

You do not have to name every group. AutoCAD will name them for you. Why didn't you use the LIST command to check the name of the group?

You also do not have to know the name of the group to ungroup it. Invoke the command then pick the group.

Use the Search box and type in Group. What other choices are available?

Have you looked at the Group options like Remove, Add, Rename, Reorder, Description and Selectable?

You can create a custom toolbar icon for the Group and Ungroup commands so you do not have to keep typing the command in. Maybe you can use a command alias? What about a small lisp routine?

It could be that since I am using a version of the program that is 10 years newer than yours what I see may be different than what you see. I think it is time to upgrade don't you?

Do you do any 3D work?

Do you make use of lisp routines?

What kinds of drawings do you create that you believe the GROUP command is the best choice?

Edited by John Connor - 21.Apr.2015 at 17:47

groups : I read what was available to me...

Tue, 21 Apr 2015 16:31:55 +0000

Author: howhow1
Subject: 11123
Posted: 21.Apr.2015 at 16:31

I read what was available to me (didn't skip class)
ok . . details
what I want to do and find find handy is when I'm laying out a design is to build a group of multiple objects(lines, circles, arcs, symbols etc) so as to manipulate, as well as copy individual object(s) from that group after exploding
in a-cad 2004 LT there is a group toolbar which allows you build groups,
explode them add to them, and rebuild them using the icons in the toolbar
the only similar icon in 2005 is the explode icon
the steps I've used in creating the group:

To create a group

At the Command prompt, enter group.

In the Object Grouping dialog box under Group Identification, enter a group name and a description.
In the Create Group area, click New.

The dialog box closes temporarily.

Select objects and press ENTER.

Click OK.

when clicking the explode icon, and then clicking on the group the command line message reads
"_ objects were not able to be exploded" thus leaving the group intact

upon typing group in the help search box what appears is "create groups" with the tabs "concepts,
procedures and reference" typing "ungroup" yields the same result
the only info regarding ungrouping displayed so far;
" The objects in your drawing can be members of more than one group, and groups themselves can be nested in other groups. You can ungroup a nested group to restore the original group configuration."
where does it explain the steps for this this ?

There is no group toolbar in the customize menu (unless I need glasses) that I'm seeing on 2005,
there is no topic "about groups"or section called " to ungroup objects objects"
under the heading "group objects" "procedures" tab what in offered is

upon typing " -group " an option of exploding a named group is available
however I did not name all of the groups
do I have to go back and rename the groups?
so what I want to do is to have a toolbar to click on an icon rather than having to type the command every time with the ability to build, modify and explode groups with in a drawing
yes I appreciate the guidance " if you give a man a fish he eats for a day, and if you teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime"
any pearls would be appreciated

groups : You did not study hard enough...

Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:29:46 +0000

Author: John Connor
Subject: 11123
Posted: 21.Apr.2015 at 11:29

You did not study hard enough or you skipped class.

Under the topic "About Groups" you'll find a section called "To Ungroup Objects". Read it.

What exactly are you trying to do? maybe if you gave us some much needed background we'll have a better understanding of the nature of the problem and thus we can offer a solution that will work.

We need details. Lots of details. Don't stop explaining until you run out of words and find yourself repeating phrases. Starting now.................................................

groups : Hello howhow1 and John, a long...

Tue, 21 Apr 2015 07:52:40 +0000

Author: philippe JOSEPH
Subject: 11123
Posted: 21.Apr.2015 at 07:52

Hello howhow1 and John, a long time ago I tried using groups but I found them unusefull ( I may be wrong ), now I use and abuse of blocks ( with all their complex functions ) and am very happy with this.

Maybe I'm wrong about not using groups ?

groups : I've been studying up...

Tue, 21 Apr 2015 02:04:19 +0000

Author: howhow1
Subject: 11123
Posted: 21.Apr.2015 at 02:04

I've been studying up on it but can't figure out why

it won't let me explode a group

what am I not doing correctly? is it the way the group is set up?

is there a better way such as making a block - so as to explode &

use separate objects and then "re- block" ?

thanks

groups : Go to your AutoCAD 2005 Help file...

Mon, 20 Apr 2015 23:47:50 +0000

Author: John Connor
Subject: 11123
Posted: 20.Apr.2015 at 23:47

Go to your AutoCAD 2005 Help file and search on the word GROUP. Start reading. Usually the explanation of the command also includes all the ways it can be invoked.

groups : question RE groups on a-cad...

Mon, 20 Apr 2015 22:34:00 +0000

Author: howhow1
Subject: 11123
Posted: 20.Apr.2015 at 22:34

question RE groups

on a-cad 2004 there is a group command where you can select objects, ad to group and copy, move etc as a whole group

how is this accomplished on 2005?

I noticed there is a group command if typed in , by can't find an icon

also after naming group adding objects and highlighting the entire group is not highlited