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Topic ClosedModeling a Twisted Ribbon

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16.Oct.2018 at 20:41
Originally posted by philippe JOSEPH philippe JOSEPH wrote:

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I suppose that THICKEN is what Kent what waiting for or his next step. 
 
Yes, it is [a newer command than the version of AutoCAD I used for years, so I wasn't aware of it].  BUT if the small difference matters, THICKEN goes only one way from a Surface, with no center-the-thickness option -- it's not like giving a Polyline width [which is centered].  So if the thickness of the ribbon needs to be centered across the zero-thickness twisting Surface, I think it's necessary to LOFT from one Helix to the other, and also LOFT in the other order [from the other to the one], and THICKEN both of the Surfaces by half the desired total thickness, then UNION the two Solid results together [and Erase the Surfaces if you like, if DELOBJ wasn't set to do that in the process of Thickening].
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15.Oct.2018 at 12:41
Thanks Sean but I have to work the model to make it look much more like the very first image and also I have simplified the SUBTRACTed notches with a "simple" EXTRUDE of a region along a path like a thread that we can see for example on your image.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15.Oct.2018 at 10:38
Nicely done.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15.Oct.2018 at 07:43
HOC ERAT IN VOTIS, but different.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13.Oct.2018 at 13:55
Very nicely done and explained SEANT.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13.Oct.2018 at 11:43
Originally posted by philippe JOSEPH philippe JOSEPH wrote:

Seant you are number "ONE", tell us more !!!!!!!!!!!!
Eventually a "step by step" drawing ?
I suppose that LOFT is like Kent's method : LOFT between 2 concentric helixes, and then ...
I suppose that THICKEN is what Kent what waiting for or his next step. 
 

That's correct.  

I think the "Step by Step" would best be done by each individual.  I can tell you it's possible, you tell me what your specific steps were.  Experimenting is where we find the capabilities, and limitations, of AutoCAD.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13.Oct.2018 at 11:05
Seant you are number "ONE", tell us more !!!!!!!!!!!!
Eventually a "step by step" drawing ?
I suppose that LOFT is like Kent's method : LOFT between 2 concentric helixes, and then ...
I suppose that THICKEN is what Kent what waiting for or his next step. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13.Oct.2018 at 10:58
A sequence of commands:
Helix
Loft
Sweep
Subtract
Thicken

Results.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12.Oct.2018 at 19:44
Or maybe we are going to loose our mind because Arunvigneshram is just teasing us with his Solidworks ans we are working with AutoCAD and not Inventor or an other product.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12.Oct.2018 at 19:08
Originally posted by philippe JOSEPH philippe JOSEPH wrote:

... I would use the LOFT command between 2 rectangles correctly located in 3D ....
 
Not between just 2 of them, but an approach that worked for me was to draw a long skinny rectangle, copy it upward multiple times, rotate each copy successively more to create the twist, and then LOFT through the stack of them.  I did them at a distance apart about the same as the length of the rectangle, and at 30-degree successive rotations -- I don't know how large the angle can be and still work right, but 90-degree rotation gave a very different kind of result.
 
That gives a real Solid, rather than a Surface as in my previous reply.  What I haven't found a good way to do yet is to position little Solids appropriately for Subtracting to make the notches -- ARRAYPATH seems likely, but I haven't found the right combination of options and initial orientation to get them to align in the right way.
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