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Topic: Data in Vault System
Posted By: glennfuller6
Subject: Data in Vault System
Date Posted: 17.Jan.2008 at 06:23
We have about 200 GB worth of data in our Vault system– most files are stored as only one version. Our current backup procedure takes more than 4 hours to perform.

Since we are planning to add one more location in our organization, the size of the file store will probably double or triple in next two or three months. With the anticipated growth, the backups will take even longer. Is there a way to implement an incremental or a differential backup procedure?


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Posted By: Vladimir Michl
Date Posted: 17.Jan.2008 at 11:08
A faster hardware could help. I would also recommend to use the –DBSC switch in the ADMSConsole line to exclude the standard content libraries from the backup process.
Or you can use standard system (non-Autodesk) backup methods employing incr/diff methods -- just make sure you stop your ADMS for such backup process.


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Posted By: rossengary
Date Posted: 22.Jan.2008 at 08:31
You can mirror network stations so that any thing on one is on the other too. This basically happens with real time backup. Since my IT guys work on it, no idea how it works.

Posted By: glennfuller6
Date Posted: 24.Jan.2008 at 08:30
It is unclear whether Productstream ADMS and Vault ADMS 2008 supports incremental/ differential backups or not. 

Posted By: Vladimir Michl
Date Posted: 24.Jan.2008 at 10:06
Productream does (the IBR tool), simple Vault does not.

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Posted By: rossengary
Date Posted: 28.Jan.2008 at 08:37
What are you using to perform the backups? What is your total backup window? Is this all going to be in one location or in multiple locations as far as different servers?

Posted By: glennfuller6
Date Posted: 30.Jan.2008 at 07:51
Actually we need to implement an incremental or a differential backup procedure. And that too in multiple locations.

It sounds like something might not be configured quite right. Since one of my partners had recently copied ~200GB to a fresh (empty) usb drive and it didn't take anywhere near as long. I was surprised to hear that. Now, I am trying to re-configure.

Posted By: rossengary
Date Posted: 05.Feb.2008 at 07:51

Incremental & Differential backups take less time, each day, compared to a total backup, but restoring the files requires A LOT of time.

If you were to mirror, as previously mentioned, or clone or image your HDDs, you would have everything backed up, & you could recover in 1 swell foop.

Posted By: sdavis_199
Date Posted: 14.Feb.2008 at 06:41

Are you using 10 / 100 hardware & cabling or gigabit hardware & cabling?

                     

Is the data stored on the computer with the fastest CPU, most ram, and fastest hard disk drives? If not, that could be part of your problem.

 

Have you evaluated the network for load balancing?

 

A router that utilizes SPI (Stateful Packet Inspection), a firewall based protocol, can reduce network efficiency.

Posted By: rossengary
Date Posted: 19.Feb.2008 at 08:12
Have you tried Riverbed's Steelhead appliance product (www.riverbed.com)? They accelerate VAULT services over slow WANs and make sharing CAD data as fast as it would be on a LAN.

Posted By: sdavis_199
Date Posted: 26.Feb.2008 at 08:38
My preference is to expend time on the front end [creating the backup], rather than on the back end.

Acronis True Image Echo Workstation creates an exact disk image of your office desktop and allows you to backup key data files and folders. You can run backup jobs on multiple machines simultaneously on both 64-bit Windows and 32-bit Windows systems with the centralized remote management capabilities.

Posted By: rossengary
Date Posted: 05.Mar.2008 at 06:05
We have three offices that are sharing project files and our only solution was Riverbed Steelhead. It's true that they are expensive but the amount of time and headache that is saved is worth every time.

Posted By: sdavis_199
Date Posted: 10.Mar.2008 at 12:37
There are some unsupported ways to backup the vault using standard enterprise backup tools but you need to be careful as to how you go about this - the biggest concerns are:

 
1) Do not backup the SQL database when it's live
2) And make sure to test your disaster recovery scenarios

Posted By: charlesbentt
Date Posted: 14.Mar.2008 at 11:05
I equally versify with what George is sharing for Riverbed’s Steelhead appliances. They are performing well in accelerating VAULT services over slow WANs. They have rattling awful solution.

Posted By: glennfuller6
Date Posted: 19.Mar.2008 at 06:42
The reviews for Riverbed are positive from all sides. The solution they provide looks very promising. In the test trial, we found that it addressed all the issues that we were facing, especially sharing large graphic and design files.

Looking forward to get these products in, in the coming time.


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