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damienrange ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 07.Dec.2007 Status: Offline Points: 5 |
![]() Posted: 14.Mar.2008 at 10:58 |
The reviews for Riverbed are
positive from all sides. We had a test trial and found that it addressed all
the issues that we were facing, in terms of application acceleration, bandwidth
savings and usability; especially sharing large graphic and design files (Revit
Files).
Looking forward to get these products in, in the coming time. |
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charlesbentt ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 11.Jan.2008 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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We have Riverbeds in all our
offices. We did our benchmarking well over a year, and it was definitely worth
the expense. We just recently added the Steelheads (Riverbed) Mobile Software
to our laptop users. I went from Save To Central times in excess of an hour
down to 10 minutes connecting from a hotel with VPN. I have had the Steelhead
Mobile for maybe 3 months and I now wouldn't work without it.
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sherlikt ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 11.Jan.2008 Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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You
are very right raysirois. Let me share our experience too.
We have a small company with two locations. Working with Revit worksharing used to be so slow that it was not possible for us before we upgraded to a set of Riverbed boxes (WAN acceleration devices). We have a relatively slow line 2mbit in and 512 MB out, and thought about getting a city to city dedicated line, which would probably solve our problems. But the price per month was outrageous. One of the Revit gurus in Autodesk recommended Riverbed. It worked, and the guys at Riverbed have been absolutely fantastic and helpful in setting it all up for us over the phone/email. The boxes were expensive but the performance was outrageous. We had a huge Revit file of about 100 MB, which took 30 minutes before the boxes were set up. After the boxes were installed it uploaded in something like 20 seconds. The first time you transfer something over it takes a long time, then the second time it transfers really fast. Hope it helps. |
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raysirois ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 26.Feb.2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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raysirois ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 26.Feb.2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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The technology you guys need to consider in your environments is Riverbed's Steelheads. These WAN acceleration appliances go on either end of your WAN links (T1 or VPN typically), and basically give performance nearly as fast as a local area networks gives. We have been using this
technology for 4 years now, and it has enabled us to have a 99% central data model, including our AutoCAD. Civil3D works very well with this. (Land Desktop did not work very well with it, (MDB files don't work well.)) We do not use Revit. See http://www.riverbed.com AND http://www.ray.sirois.com for more information.
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charlesbentt ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 11.Jan.2008 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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The Riverbed devices
offer pretty much the best performance, especially for MS Windows environments.
They will improve the performance for Revit users. You do need to start with a decent network (as in LAN). And also worth noting, they can never offer the same performance as those on the same LAN experience, but they can move it much closer. For smaller files and office type docs, this is often insignificant - but for larger CAD files, you will still notice it. My suggestion is to get some in for a trial. |
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grachel21 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 07.Dec.2007 Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Some people do the VPN / Remote Desktop approach
instead of the Riverbeds.
They setup cheap headless desktop units in the main office that remote users can log into and work from, so that Revit is on the LAN all the time. With a decent VPN / Remote Desktop setup its workable. The Riverbed stuff is awesome, if not cheap. |
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sherlikt ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 11.Jan.2008 Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Some Revit users are using Riverbed WAN software/hardware solutions: http://www.riverbed.com/solutions/accelerate/cad_apps.php It's not cheap, but if you workflow requires working on the same file from multiple offices; it may be worth it to you. Short of speeding up the WAN, I think I would have each office working on a separate file that is linked into the files of the other offices. |
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charlesbentt ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 11.Jan.2008 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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We did first test over our standard T3 WAN using a 110mb
project file. Working directly in the Central file over the WAN was impossible.
Saving to central, required upwards of 30 minutes. Edited by charlesbentt - 08.Feb.2008 at 09:04 |
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grachel21 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 07.Dec.2007 Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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There are various WAFS and caching appliance and software-based solutions which work very well for other applications as well, for example Steelhead from Riverbed, the Tacit Networks appliance, and Availl software. While work sharing, Revit is constantly checking to make sure items are not being edited by others, and locking items when you edit them. If the network is slow, Revit will be slow. |
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