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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Sep.2015 at 18:46
Just some of the junk in your drawing.

Command: -PURGE

Enter type of unused objects to purge [Blocks/DEtailviewstyles/Dimstyles/Groups/LAyers/LTypes/MAterials/MUltileaderstyles/Plotstyles/SHapes/textSTyles/Mlinestyles/SEctionviewstyles/Tablestyles/Visualstyles/Regapps/Zero-length geometry/Empty text objects/Orphaned data/All]: r
Enter name(s) to purge <*>:
Verify each name to be purged? [Yes/No] <Y>: n
Deleting registered application "_PLOTMARKAPP_".
Deleting registered application "ACAD_EXEMPT_FROM_CAD_STANDARDS".
Deleting registered application "ACAD_MLEADERVER".
Deleting registered application "ACAD_OBJECT_CHANGE_GUID".
Deleting registered application "ACAD_PSEXT".
Deleting registered application "AcadAnnoPO".
Deleting registered application "AVE_ENTITY_MATERIAL".
Deleting registered application "AVE_GLOBAL".
Deleting registered application "AVE_MATERIAL".
Deleting registered application "AVE_RENDER".
10 registered applications deleted.

Command:
-PURGE

Enter type of unused objects to purge [Blocks/DEtailviewstyles/Dimstyles/Groups/LAyers/LTypes/MAterials/MUltileaderstyles/Plotstyles/SHapes/textSTyles/Mlinestyles/SEctionviewstyles/Tablestyles/Visualstyles/Regapps/Zero-length geometry/Empty text objects/Orphaned data/All]: all
Enter name(s) to purge <*>:
Verify each name to be purged? [Yes/No] <Y>: n
Deleting block "40' - REAR BOTTOM".
Deleting block "40' - REAR SPACER".
Deleting block "40' HI - REAR PANEL".
Deleting block "40' REAR".
Deleting block "40-FLOOR".
Deleting block "40-LH BOTTOM LENGTH".
Deleting block "40-REAR END CROSS BEAM".
Deleting block "40-REAR LONGITUDINAL".
Deleting block "40-REAR LONGITUDINAL TOP".
Deleting block "40-RH BOTTOM LENGTH".
Deleting block "40-ROOF".
Deleting block "40-SIDE FLOOR".
Deleting block "40-STIFFENING CROSS BEAM".
Deleting block "40-STIFFENING CROSS BEAM TOP".
Deleting block "40-UPPER LENGTH".
Deleting block "40HI - SIDE PANEL".
Deleting block "801-040".
Deleting block "801-582".
Deleting block "80A-SC".
Deleting block "80D-SC".
Deleting block "847-080".
Deleting block "851-080".
Deleting block "A$C64B31FB9".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$1$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$10$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$11$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$12$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$13$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$14$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$15$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$16$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$17$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$18$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$19$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$2$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$20$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$21$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$22$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$23$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$3$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$4$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$5$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$6$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$7$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$8$ATF".
Deleting block "Bolted Connection$9$ATF".
Deleting block "CORNER$$BOTTOM$LEFT".
Deleting block "CORNER$$BOTTOM$RIGHT".
Deleting block "CORNER$$TOP$LEFT".
Deleting block "CORNER$$TOP$RIGHT".
Deleting block "DIN EN 24017 M12 x 25".
Deleting block "DIN EN 24032 M12".
Deleting block "DOOR BRACKET - 1".
Deleting block "DOOR BRACKET - 2".
Deleting block "DOOR HINGE".
Deleting block "DOOR LOCK BAR".
Deleting block "DOOR PANEL".
Deleting block "DOOR POST".
Deleting block "DOOR SEAL".
Deleting block "DOOR WIDTH".
Deleting block "flange 8 in slipon 150".
Deleting block "FLOOR C-BEAM".
Deleting block "FLOOR C-BEAM SMALL".
Deleting block "FRONT BOTTOM".
Deleting block "FRONT TOP".
Deleting block "generic dredge pump".
Deleting block "HANDLE".
Deleting block "HI-LH FRONT POST".
Deleting block "HI-LH REAR POST".
Deleting block "HI-RH FRONT POST".
Deleting block "HI-RH REAR POST".
Deleting block "HI - LH DOOR".
Deleting block "HI - RH DOOR".
Deleting block "ISO CONTAINER - 1AAA  - (HICUBE) 40' (12m)".
Deleting block "LATCH".
Deleting block "LATCH BLOCK".
Deleting block "LATCH PAD".
Deleting block "SPEARSHDL1".
Deleting block "SPEARSHDL2".
Deleting block "SPEARSHDL3".
Deleting block "SPEARSHDL4".
Deleting block "SPEARSHDL5".
Deleting block "SPEARSHDL5B".
Deleting block "SPEARSHDL6".
Deleting block "SPEARSHDL7".
Deleting block "SPEARSHDL8".
Deleting block "SPEARSHDL9".
Deleting block "SPEARSL2".
Deleting block "SPEARSLOGO".
Deleting block "STEEL FLOOR".
Deleting block "UCHANNEL".
Deleting block "UPPER REAR WIDTH".
Deleting block "Waste Block 2".
94 blocks deleted.
Deleting layer "3D HOSE".
Deleting layer "65% SCREENING".
Deleting layer "AIR HANDLING".
Deleting layer "AUX_EQUIP".
Deleting layer "BORDER-LGT".
Deleting layer "BORDER_TXT-HVY".
Deleting layer "BORDER_TXT-LGT".
Deleting layer "BUILDING".
Deleting layer "CENTERLINES".
Deleting layer "CLIENT_PIPING".
Deleting layer "Defpoints".
Deleting layer "DIMENSIONS".
Deleting layer "DIMTXT".
Deleting layer "DWGTXT".
Deleting layer "DWGTXT_HVY".
Deleting layer "EQUIPMENT".
Deleting layer "EQUIPMENT_INTERNALS".
Deleting layer "EXIST_PIPING".
Deleting layer "FLOATS".
Deleting layer "FOUNDATIONS".
Deleting layer "FRAME".
Deleting layer "GEOTUBE".
Deleting layer "HARDWARE".
Deleting layer "HIDDEN".
Deleting layer "HOSE".
Deleting layer "INSTRUMENTATION".
Deleting layer "LADDER".
Deleting layer "LAND".
Deleting layer "LINER".
Deleting layer "MAJOR PIPING".
Deleting layer "MEMBRANE".
Deleting layer "MINOR PIPING".
Deleting layer "NOPLOT".
Deleting layer "OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT".
Deleting layer "PHANTOM".
Deleting layer "PLATFORM".
Deleting layer "spears_c".
Deleting layer "spears_h".
Deleting layer "spears_l".
Deleting layer "SPEARS_LOGO".
Deleting layer "spears_n".
Deleting layer "spears_s".
Deleting layer "spears_x".
Deleting layer "TAR".
Deleting layer "USER DEFINED".
Deleting layer "VIEWPORT".
Deleting layer "WATER".
Deleting layer "XHATCH".
48 layers deleted.
Deleting linetype "CENTER".
Deleting linetype "CENTER2".
Deleting linetype "HIDDEN".
Deleting linetype "HIDDEN2".
Deleting linetype "PHANTOM2".
5 linetypes deleted.
Deleting text style "TECH".
1 text style deleted.

No unreferenced shape files found.
Deleting dimension style "Standard".
1 dimension style deleted.

No unreferenced mlinestyles found.

No unreferenced plotstyles found.

No unreferenced table styles found.
Deleting material "Canvas - White".
Deleting material "Flat - Broom Gray".
Deleting material "Galvanized".
Deleting material "Mesh 1".
Deleting material "Murky River".
Deleting material "Reflecting Pool".
Deleting material "Retaining Wall - Striated Cinder Blocks".
Deleting material "Rough - Black".
Deleting material "Rubber - Black".
Deleting material "Rubber - Black(1)".
Deleting material "Smooth - Light Orange".
Deleting material "Swimming Pool".
12 materials deleted.

No unreferenced visual styles found.

No unreferenced multileader styles found.

No unreferenced groups found.

No unreferenced Detail view styles found.

No unreferenced Section view styles found.

"Humans have a strength that cannot be measured. This is John Connor. If you are reading this, you are the resistance."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Sep.2015 at 18:35
https://www.dropbox.com/s/su12un3idkawlfa/Pontoon.dwg?dl=0
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Sep.2015 at 18:28
Got the file down to 19,000 KB, but could not load it to the CAD BLOCKS area. It said file size was too big. Turns out I have used DropBox. I uploaded the file there. Now how do can you or anyone else get to it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Sep.2015 at 18:18
I'm going to place the model in the CAD BLOCKS area. The file is called Pontoon.dwg

Looking at some of the other models of pumps I've done, they're around the 3,600 KB size so this pump model file size is a little larger, but I didn't think it was outrageous.

Originally posted by John Connor John Connor wrote:

I doubt you can attach a file of that size to a post but you might be able to upload it to the CAD Blocks area.

The file size for the pump seems overly large compared to your entire drawing 3D drawing file size don't you think?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Sep.2015 at 17:57
I doubt you can attach a file of that size to a post but you might be able to upload it to the CAD Blocks area.

The file size for the pump seems overly large compared to your entire drawing 3D drawing file size don't you think?


Edited by John Connor - 10.Sep.2015 at 17:57
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Sep.2015 at 17:38
I am not making use of clipping plane. I actually never have. File size of the pump drawing is 4,210 KB. File size of the drawing it is being inserting it into is 22,060 KB. I'm checking with our IT group regarding your questions about the graphics card/chip. I don't use DropBox. Can I attach the 22,060 KB file here?


Originally posted by John Connor John Connor wrote:

And are you running a dedicated graphics card or is an onboard graphics chip installed?

Are you making use of clipping planes?

Can you provide a copy of the drawing via DropBox?  Someone here could take a look at it and see if they see the same thing happening as you do.  It doesn't have to be the entire drawing; just enough to visualize the problem.

What is the file size for the 3D pump drawing?

What is the file size of the drawing you are inserting it into?

Is it just the one insertion?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Sep.2015 at 17:14
And are you running a dedicated graphics card or is an onboard graphics chip installed?

Are you making use of clipping planes?

Can you provide a copy of the drawing via DropBox?  Someone here could take a look at it and see if they see the same thing happening as you do.  It doesn't have to be the entire drawing; just enough to visualize the problem.

What is the file size for the 3D pump drawing?

What is the file size of the drawing you are inserting it into?

Is it just the one insertion?


Edited by John Connor - 10.Sep.2015 at 17:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Sep.2015 at 16:59
Hardware acceleration is ENABLED.

System is Intel Core i5-4200M CPU @ 2.5GHz, 8GB RAM, 64bit OS
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Sep.2015 at 16:35
What are the specifications on your system?  Maybe it is a graphics related problem.

Is hardware acceleration enabled?

Are you utilizing clipping planes?


Edited by John Connor - 10.Sep.2015 at 16:35
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Sep.2015 at 16:07
Yes, inserted as a block, not xref'd. The block is a separate 3D .dwg file I created. I ran the Recover and Audit commands on that file and it reports back that no errors are found.
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